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$600 billion in interest costs per year, that's what we're trying to prevent. my suggestion is we increase the debt ceiling in incremental amounts until we get president obama to get serious about reducing spending. >> so you will increase it. >> you will vote increase it in an incremental amount? >> there's a good construct in terms of giving you know, $1 of increase in the debt ceiling for every dollar in deficit reduction. that's what we have to start using the debt ceiling to impose the spending discipline on this administration. and president obama saying that we don't have a spending problem. we have a spending problem in this nation. we have a deficit spending problem. that's where we have to start getting it under control. this debate is not going away. >> we've heard all of the, bumper stickers, let me bring you balk to my example of february 15th. we have $52 billion in committed spending. there isn't a chest of money sitting around for all the extra stuff. i've got a list, interest, which is the one you're talking, about the biggest parks $30 billion. we're talking in n
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